Drivers Side Dutch Door

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Drivers Side Dutch Door

Post by Rileysowner » Fri May 09, 2014 3:37 pm

The drivers side dutch door won't open on my van. I open the hatch, the passenger side door, but while there is a sound like the mechanism is moving inside the door, the door won't unlatch. So any idea what's up?
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Re: Drivers Side Dutch Door

Post by Herbie » Fri May 09, 2014 5:11 pm

It's a pretty simple mechanism of a handle/rod/cam-latch. There's no lock that I'm aware of, so it may be that something needs lube or is similarly stuck. Is it "hard to open" or it won't open at all? If the latter, you may have to try to remove the trim panels on the door to get at the mechanism.

There's a "hoop" at the "floor" of the van, near the inner edge of the door, this is what the latch grabs. (Just so you know where to look)
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Re: Drivers Side Dutch Door

Post by Rileysowner » Fri May 09, 2014 6:26 pm

Herbie wrote:It's a pretty simple mechanism of a handle/rod/cam-latch. There's no lock that I'm aware of, so it may be that something needs lube or is similarly stuck. Is it "hard to open" or it won't open at all? If the latter, you may have to try to remove the trim panels on the door to get at the mechanism.

There's a "hoop" at the "floor" of the van, near the inner edge of the door, this is what the latch grabs. (Just so you know where to look)
It doesn't open at all. So off will come the trim panel.
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Re: Drivers Side Dutch Door

Post by Rileysowner » Mon May 12, 2014 3:01 pm

I got part of the interior trim off so I can get my hand and a light in there. It looks like the whole mechanism is hooked up, but the bottom part that latches on will not move. I sprayed it as well as I could with some lubricant, but still no luck. Is there any way to pry the latch part loose so I can get the door open and all the interior trim off giving better access?
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Re: Drivers Side Dutch Door

Post by Herbie » Mon May 12, 2014 4:37 pm

As soon as I get the hinge pins put back into my door (I'm mid-project right now), I'll take a look at mine and see if I can figure out a workaround for it. I seem to remember being able to see at least part of the hoop and latch of the left door when the right door was open, so hopefully I can find a way.
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Re: Drivers Side Dutch Door

Post by Rileysowner » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:49 pm

I still have not got this open.
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Re: Drivers Side Dutch Door

Post by Wiley » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:39 pm

Here are some pics I took when my door wouldnt open, I had to adjust the plastic clip slightly, everything was moving properly but not quite far enough to release it, though not sure what part you are struggling with to get o the rod, but if you can pull the rod and it releases then it is most likely the plastic clip.

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Re: Drivers Side Dutch Door

Post by Rileysowner » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:31 pm

I have the interior trim moved out of the way enough that I can get my hand in and grab the rod. I have pulled on it, but it still doesn't seem to want to release the latch. I am going to try soaking it in PB Blaster inside and out for a while then try again.
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Re: Drivers Side Dutch Door

Post by CaptSquid » Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:54 am

All kinds of crud builds up in the back doors of any vehicle, especially GM vehicles. I had to replace a reversing lamp on the 93 Burb and was amazed at how much gunk was inside the fender. For the future, however, I'll be replacing both with Anzo LED assemblies AFTER I pay off the loan. I won't sink that much money into it until it belongs to me completely.
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Re: Drivers Side Dutch Door

Post by Rileysowner » Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:26 am

I still have not gotten this open. I pulled off all the interior trim, so I can see it and get to it, but I can't seem to get the latch to disengage. I have given it a good soak with PB Blaster, at least better than the last time I tried, I will have a look again tomorrow. I really need to get it open, and I have a feeling it is full of rust and crud that will not let loose.
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Re: Drivers Side Dutch Door

Post by Rileysowner » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:00 pm

After a lot of spraying of pb blaster and trying to get it to unlatch, I finally had my DW how the handle in the open position while I kicked the door from inside. That got it open, however, now I can't get it shut as the latch for the drivers side did not stay stuck in the open position (as I was hoping) but in the closed position. It did allow me to do what I needed to, but I was hoping for a different outcome.
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Re: Drivers Side Dutch Door

Post by Herbie » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:13 pm

Rileysowner wrote:After a lot of spraying of pb blaster and trying to get it to unlatch, I finally had my DW how the handle in the open position while I kicked the door from inside. That got it open, however, now I can't get it shut as the latch for the drivers side did not stay stuck in the open position (as I was hoping) but in the closed position. It did allow me to do what I needed to, but I was hoping for a different outcome.
You may be able to trip the latch back to the open position with a screwdriver. Haven't looked at the Astro one specifically, but I've done this on other car doors no problem.
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Re: Drivers Side Dutch Door

Post by Rileysowner » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:25 pm

Herbie wrote:
Rileysowner wrote:After a lot of spraying of pb blaster and trying to get it to unlatch, I finally had my DW how the handle in the open position while I kicked the door from inside. That got it open, however, now I can't get it shut as the latch for the drivers side did not stay stuck in the open position (as I was hoping) but in the closed position. It did allow me to do what I needed to, but I was hoping for a different outcome.
You may be able to trip the latch back to the open position with a screwdriver. Haven't looked at the Astro one specifically, but I've done this on other car doors no problem.
The problem with that is the same as the one getting things open. Once I pulled the entire interior trim panel off so I had a clear view it was clear there was a bunch of rust in the mechanism inside the door. I was hoping lots of PB Blaster would loosen it up, but that did not work so the latch remains seized with the rust.
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Re: Drivers Side Dutch Door

Post by Wiley » Sat Jul 04, 2015 4:35 am

Wiley wrote:Here are some pics I took when my door wouldnt open, I had to adjust the plastic clip slightly, everything was moving properly but not quite far enough to release it, though not sure what part you are struggling with to get o the rod, but if you can pull the rod and it releases then it is most likely the plastic clip.

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Oops, I see in 2014 I sent you to the wrong place since thats for the sliding door, my bad. I did have the problem with my dutch doors as well, but dont think it was the same as your rusted mechanism anyway. Wow its still stuck......
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Re: Drivers Side Dutch Door

Post by Rileysowner » Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:05 pm

I wish I could have gotten it working as it probably would have gotten me more money than what I got when I sold it this week. Sorry to see it go. It was a reliable vehicle.
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