Transfer case in a 2WD?
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Transfer case in a 2WD?
Is it possible and would there be any advantages from it? Someday I will buy an AWD van but for now I want to pimp my 2WD to the max.
What bolts up to the 2WD 4l60E without having to mess with the shaft? I don't want to void the 3 year warranty on my trans.
Soon I will have 33" tires, 4.11 gears, posi and 11" brakes. I'm obviously never going for serious off road but I do want a very capable urban warfare rig that may occasionally find itself where it doesn't belong or pulling something it probably shouldn't.
For those who want to flame me for not just buying an AWD now, I already have the ultimate 4x4 FJ40 Land Cruiser so I really don't need one. I could drive that under water and then up the side of Mt. Fuji any day of the week.
I'm looking for an add-on if it exists. Another bolt on accessory.
What bolts up to the 2WD 4l60E without having to mess with the shaft? I don't want to void the 3 year warranty on my trans.
Soon I will have 33" tires, 4.11 gears, posi and 11" brakes. I'm obviously never going for serious off road but I do want a very capable urban warfare rig that may occasionally find itself where it doesn't belong or pulling something it probably shouldn't.
For those who want to flame me for not just buying an AWD now, I already have the ultimate 4x4 FJ40 Land Cruiser so I really don't need one. I could drive that under water and then up the side of Mt. Fuji any day of the week.
I'm looking for an add-on if it exists. Another bolt on accessory.
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Re: Transfer case in a 2WD?
Can't help on technical side except I'm sure there are times it would be nice for low range! Never know what you may need to move. The landcruiser, That's just a bucketlist dream of mine! I am curious, hope not out of line, why do you care what others think of your projects? You have tons of work and seemingly mad skills into these things and they are great, but I hope they are for you, not to prove something to others. At the end of the day, you should be the only one you see in a mirror. I mean no disrespect, just curious. Kelly
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Re: Transfer case in a 2WD?
Sure it's possible, I've seen where it's been to other vehicles online. Without messing with the trans to have a proper output shaft makes it more difficult though. Going that way will most likely require a divorced transfer case, a custom rear drive shaft and a bit of fab work. Me, I'd grab a decent JY trans, cross member and rear drive shaft from an AWD van then mount the 2spd TC to it.
Off roading like we do, I can see where the 2spd would be nice to have even without front drive wheels. Controlled descents without riding the brakes are so nice.
Off roading like we do, I can see where the 2spd would be nice to have even without front drive wheels. Controlled descents without riding the brakes are so nice.
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Re: Transfer case in a 2WD?
Yeah, you need a divorced case to not touch your current trans. Problem is I'm not aware of any late-model t-cases that are divorced, and an early (70s) divorced case from a full-size pickup might be hard to source. Were the early 80s Toyota cases divorced? I believe the Samurai case was. A Toyota case is probably strong enough.... not sure a Suzuki case is, but they will take some abuse.
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Re: Transfer case in a 2WD?
My '81 Toyota PU is not divorced.mdmead wrote: Were the early 80s Toyota cases divorced?
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Re: Transfer case in a 2WD?
NP 205 comes to mind.
http://www.high-impact.net/transmission ... _NP205.htm
The next step after that might be a coil 4 link solid front axle, some day?
The fit real nice into a 2wd Stro frame.
http://www.high-impact.net/transmission ... _NP205.htm
The next step after that might be a coil 4 link solid front axle, some day?
The fit real nice into a 2wd Stro frame.
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Re: Transfer case in a 2WD?
Here you go!
Mount up whatever t-case you want to your 2WD transmission without touching the trans except for removing the tail housing. You'll have to extend the VSS wiring so it reaches the t-case.
Look through this thread on Pirate 4x4. He builds kits to mate 2WD transmissions to pretty much any t-case you want. You just need to find one with a 27 spline input like a NP231 or NP241 from 1/2 ton trucks. You'll have to verify the output spline count on your current 2WD tranny. It requires some fab work for the mount and welding together...perfect for the DIY crowd!
Mount up whatever t-case you want to your 2WD transmission without touching the trans except for removing the tail housing. You'll have to extend the VSS wiring so it reaches the t-case.
Look through this thread on Pirate 4x4. He builds kits to mate 2WD transmissions to pretty much any t-case you want. You just need to find one with a 27 spline input like a NP231 or NP241 from 1/2 ton trucks. You'll have to verify the output spline count on your current 2WD tranny. It requires some fab work for the mount and welding together...perfect for the DIY crowd!
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Re: Transfer case in a 2WD?
Good link Dean. I bet he could do a GM 5 bolt star to Jeep 6 bolt for less then the $300 I spent for the Novak ad!apter!
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Re: Transfer case in a 2WD?
There is a 5 bolt GM adapter in there. Someone asked about doing one for a 4L80E to BW4472 AWD case.photo_van wrote:Good link Dean. I bet he could do a GM 5 bolt star to Jeep 6 bolt for less then the $300 I spent for the Novak ad!apter!
Current rides:
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2008 Dodge Nitro 4x4
2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8S Special Edition
Mileage spreadsheet
Vans owned:
1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy
2013 Toyota Tundra DC 4x4
2008 Dodge Nitro 4x4
2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8S Special Edition
Mileage spreadsheet
Vans owned:
1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy
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Re: Transfer case in a 2WD?
i'm going to have to check that out too that's exactly one of the items on my dream listLiftedAWDAstro wrote:There is a 5 bolt GM adapter in there. Someone asked about doing one for a 4L80E to BW4472 AWD case.photo_van wrote:Good link Dean. I bet he could do a GM 5 bolt star to Jeep 6 bolt for less then the $300 I spent for the Novak ad!apter!
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Jet performance tuner 91 octane preset, Jet under-drive pulleys
Rancho 999000 series shock, on-board controller to be installed later
DHC rock rails and skid plate Add-A-Leaf
G3500 front calipers
Zexel Torsen Diff
11" drums
180 amp Alternator
Long tru-cool 4590 trans cooler
1997 gone