Hesitate when first entering the freeway, not choked correct

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Hesitate when first entering the freeway, not choked correct

Post by LaGrasta » Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:47 pm

Something new has been happening these past few months, can't figure it out.

Background:
186k miles
fairly new rebuild on rear end and trans
tune up just a few years ago, maybe 30k or so


I start the van, jump on the freeway and I feel it cut on and off, hesitate, shudder, etc. If I engaged the cruise, I can really feel it. It goes away in less than a mile and doesn't do it again until it sits overnight upon first start up again. Once warm it never does it. After arriving to work and it sits at work all day, ti doesn't do it either.

Maybe a "choke" issue?
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Re: Hesitate when first entering the freeway, not choked cor

Post by LiftedAWDAstro » Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:39 pm

Well there is no choke on the fuel injected engines, but it does sound like an open/closed loop running issue. I am not real familiar with what sensors are used during open loop compared to closed loop so hopefully one of the more technical guys can help. Have you pulled any codes or pending codes yet?
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Re: Hesitate when first entering the freeway, not choked cor

Post by LaGrasta » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:14 pm

notice choke was in quotes, i wasn't sure what to call the process of "waring up" a FI. lol
no codes at all.
1998 Astro, 224,000 miles

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2" Overland lift & 15" BFG Terrain, 3.73 gears
JET Performance SCU-2000 (Speed Control Unit)
Gabriel Ultra shocks, rear AirLift bags & sway bar
iPOD, CD, DVD, Dutch door mounted 12s, 400w
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Re: Hesitate when first entering the freeway, not choked cor

Post by LiftedAWDAstro » Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:11 pm

I figured being in quotes meant you knew there wasn't an actual choke. Wish I could help you with more troubleshooting ideas.
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Re: Hesitate when first entering the freeway, not choked cor

Post by LaGrasta » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:41 pm

At first I wondered if one of the rear bearings were dragging, they weren't replaced when i rebuilt the rear end. What killed that theory is it never does it unless it sits overnight. Hmmm.

Anyone else have any guesses?
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Re: Hesitate when first entering the freeway, not choked cor

Post by Smiliesafari » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:50 pm

Run some "Seafoam" through it. Half can in the intake and the other half in the gas tank. It could be something as simple as dirty injectors.
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Re: Hesitate when first entering the freeway, not choked cor

Post by astrozam » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:51 pm

EGR valve perhaps? I'm not sure if the 98's were the same as the 95's but I remember having issues sort of similiar to that one time due to a sticky EGR valve...but I'm only takin a guess here.

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Re: Hesitate when first entering the freeway, not choked cor

Post by LaGrasta » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:57 pm

I have a new spider injector upgrade somewhat recent, but the EGR valve, hmmm. Let me gander that.
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Re: Hesitate when first entering the freeway, not choked cor

Post by v8famvan » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:34 am

CMP retard issue?
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Re: Hesitate when first entering the freeway, not choked cor

Post by LaGrasta » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:43 pm

UPDATE: It turns out it was low on trans fluid
1998 Astro, 224,000 miles

K&N air filter
TruCool trans cooler
2" Overland lift & 15" BFG Terrain, 3.73 gears
JET Performance SCU-2000 (Speed Control Unit)
Gabriel Ultra shocks, rear AirLift bags & sway bar
iPOD, CD, DVD, Dutch door mounted 12s, 400w
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Re: Hesitate when first entering the freeway, not choked cor

Post by okie1 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:09 pm

Thanks for coming back with the answer, might help someone down the road. :partyman:

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Re: Hesitate when first entering the freeway, not choked cor

Post by LaGrasta » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:00 pm

So many miles later, the problem returned and became worse. It bucks when idling along, such as when on cruise control on freeway. Basically, it's noticeable when no or little fuel is being supplied. With this determination, I finally figured it out and 100% fixed it. The distributor was worn and needed replaced. $100 and an hour of labor and it is back to perfect. This was a long term troubleshoot experience. We're now at 221,000.
1998 Astro, 224,000 miles

K&N air filter
TruCool trans cooler
2" Overland lift & 15" BFG Terrain, 3.73 gears
JET Performance SCU-2000 (Speed Control Unit)
Gabriel Ultra shocks, rear AirLift bags & sway bar
iPOD, CD, DVD, Dutch door mounted 12s, 400w
Draw-Tite Dual Port Hitch System, hitch-mounted bike rack (4), hitch-mounted cargo tray, Thule roof-mounted cargo box

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