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 Post subject: Re: BF Goodrich Rugged Terrain T/A 235/75-16, new to market
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:23 am 
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The axles do need to come out...

Not the rear axle housing.

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 Post subject: Re: BF Goodrich Rugged Terrain T/A 235/75-16, new to market
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:51 pm 
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Cool, the axles come out so easy; don't even have to remove the wheels. Thanks for the insight.

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K&N air filter
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2" Overland lift & 15" BFG Terrain, 3.73 gears
JET Performance SCU-2000 (Speed Control Unit)
Gabriel Ultra shocks, rear AirLift bags & sway bar
iPOD, CD, DVD, Dutch door mounted 12s, 400w
Draw-Tite Dual Port Hitch System, hitch-mounted bike rack (4), hitch-mounted cargo tray, Thule roof-mounted cargo box


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 Post subject: Re: BF Goodrich Rugged Terrain T/A 235/75-16, new to market
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:10 pm 
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And you only really need to pull them far enough out to clear the carrier.

Good Luck, Jim


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 Post subject: Re: BF Goodrich Rugged Terrain T/A 235/75-16, new to market
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:14 pm 
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Been getting quotes to have the axle re-geared. ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) So expensive!
I just got a $900 quote, but with used gears, only $700. He says $150 just in bearings alone.

Here I had my idea it was going to cost me $200 parts and $250 in labor. I can't find anyone near this price. So frustrating! ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

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1998 Astro, 224,000 miles

K&N air filter
TruCool trans cooler
2" Overland lift & 15" BFG Terrain, 3.73 gears
JET Performance SCU-2000 (Speed Control Unit)
Gabriel Ultra shocks, rear AirLift bags & sway bar
iPOD, CD, DVD, Dutch door mounted 12s, 400w
Draw-Tite Dual Port Hitch System, hitch-mounted bike rack (4), hitch-mounted cargo tray, Thule roof-mounted cargo box


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 Post subject: Re: BF Goodrich Rugged Terrain T/A 235/75-16, new to market
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:52 pm 
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Yup...expensive! I just bought a master install kit on E-bay for $141 and change. A shop is getting through their jobber for more money. You are also paying a LOT for the expertise to do the job...good thing you don't have AWD as the price is more than double.

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1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
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 Post subject: Re: BF Goodrich Rugged Terrain T/A 235/75-16, new to market
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:33 pm 
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Wow, I found a guy that will do it for $150 labor, plus parts (gears, bearings, etc) which he says will be about $300. More than I wanted to spend, but a real deal from all the quotes I've received.

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1998 Astro, 224,000 miles

K&N air filter
TruCool trans cooler
2" Overland lift & 15" BFG Terrain, 3.73 gears
JET Performance SCU-2000 (Speed Control Unit)
Gabriel Ultra shocks, rear AirLift bags & sway bar
iPOD, CD, DVD, Dutch door mounted 12s, 400w
Draw-Tite Dual Port Hitch System, hitch-mounted bike rack (4), hitch-mounted cargo tray, Thule roof-mounted cargo box


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 Post subject: Re: BF Goodrich Rugged Terrain T/A 235/75-16, new to market
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:26 am 
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$150 is cheap enough for labor. Just be careful that he does it right or you'll be out another $500. Is he warrantying his work or will he stand behind it? Do you have some references you can call?

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2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8S Special Edition

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Vans owned:
1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy


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 Post subject: Re: BF Goodrich Rugged Terrain T/A 235/75-16, new to market
PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:32 pm 
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Well, my $150 contact fell through.
I bought 3.73 gears from [url]GEARSRUS.COM[/url] and an install kit (bolts, all bearings, seals, RTV, etc) from Autozone, all for $270 and found a local shop to put it in today for $350 labor. I hope it's correct when they are finished. This is going to make such a difference, remember, I'm running 2.24s right now! 3.73 will be a all together different van! I'll report back.

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1998 Astro, 224,000 miles

K&N air filter
TruCool trans cooler
2" Overland lift & 15" BFG Terrain, 3.73 gears
JET Performance SCU-2000 (Speed Control Unit)
Gabriel Ultra shocks, rear AirLift bags & sway bar
iPOD, CD, DVD, Dutch door mounted 12s, 400w
Draw-Tite Dual Port Hitch System, hitch-mounted bike rack (4), hitch-mounted cargo tray, Thule roof-mounted cargo box


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 Post subject: Re: BF Goodrich Rugged Terrain T/A 235/75-16, new to market
PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:35 pm 
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Looking forward to the pics with the new tires.

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 Post subject: Re: BF Goodrich Rugged Terrain T/A 235/75-16, new to market
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:15 am 
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Don't forget to reprogram for the gear change and yes, you'll definitely feel the difference. My van pulls so much better now with the 4.10's. It doesn't downshift on every hill like before and it takes off from stops so much easier.

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2013 Toyota Tundra DC 4x4
2008 Dodge Nitro 4x4
2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8S Special Edition

Mileage spreadsheet

Vans owned:
1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy


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 Post subject: Re: BF Goodrich Rugged Terrain T/A 235/75-16, new to market
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:36 pm 
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I actually went against your advice and did 3.73. The few calculators I used showed this would take it back to stock, for maximum mpg. It is fantastic, all is right again with the world. I do still have to adjust my Jet2000 speedo calibration device. I haven't a GPS to match the speed, maybe I can download a free app.

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1998 Astro, 224,000 miles

K&N air filter
TruCool trans cooler
2" Overland lift & 15" BFG Terrain, 3.73 gears
JET Performance SCU-2000 (Speed Control Unit)
Gabriel Ultra shocks, rear AirLift bags & sway bar
iPOD, CD, DVD, Dutch door mounted 12s, 400w
Draw-Tite Dual Port Hitch System, hitch-mounted bike rack (4), hitch-mounted cargo tray, Thule roof-mounted cargo box


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 Post subject: Re: BF Goodrich Rugged Terrain T/A 235/75-16, new to market
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:18 pm 
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I saw where you went to 3.73's and it makes sense where you are. If it was real hilly and you were running an AWD which is heavier, then it would have made more sense to go 4.10's. Just glad you went to a better gear overall...your tranny will be happier. :muhaha:

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Current rides:
2013 Toyota Tundra DC 4x4
2008 Dodge Nitro 4x4
2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8S Special Edition

Mileage spreadsheet

Vans owned:
1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy


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 Post subject: Re: BF Goodrich Rugged Terrain T/A 235/75-16, new to market
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:48 pm 
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LaGrasta wrote:
I'm running 2.24s right now!

Is this a typo? If not, how in the heck did your van end up with this ratio?

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 Post subject: Re: BF Goodrich Rugged Terrain T/A 235/75-16, new to market
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:12 am 
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That was a typo. He was running 3.23's.

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2008 Dodge Nitro 4x4
2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8S Special Edition

Mileage spreadsheet

Vans owned:
1986 Safari 2.5L 4 speed manual - scrapped
1995 Astro 2WD conversion 4.11 posi, shift kit, DHC rock rails - sold to Skippy
1998 Astro 4x4 D44, D60, NP231, full hydraulic system with 9k# Milemarker winch and snow plow - sold to Lockdoc
2003 Astro AWD all stock - traded for a 3/4 ton truck
2005 AWD, 4.10's - sold to skippy


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 Post subject: Re: BF Goodrich Rugged Terrain T/A 235/75-16, new to market
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:56 pm 
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The Van drove awesome, I really like the new power delivery with the 3.73 gearing. The new taller tires rolled smooth and quite, very impressive at speed with the cruise control engaged. The trans temps never got crazy, 220 max when really in the hills. The outside temps were really cool so that helped too I'm sure.

Now the trans needs swapped! Yeah, I knew it was coming, now with 176k and really putting stress on it with the 3.23 gears all those years, it took it's toll. It's now slipping pretty bad and in fact I'm suspicious it hurt my MPG during my trip due to a slipping converter, and I was in 3rd gear, not OD most of the time. I averaged 14.5 mpg. Does that make sense?

My 4L60e quotes thus far have ranged anywhere from $600 to $1200. Hmmm. I'll be doing the install myself.

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1998 Astro, 224,000 miles

K&N air filter
TruCool trans cooler
2" Overland lift & 15" BFG Terrain, 3.73 gears
JET Performance SCU-2000 (Speed Control Unit)
Gabriel Ultra shocks, rear AirLift bags & sway bar
iPOD, CD, DVD, Dutch door mounted 12s, 400w
Draw-Tite Dual Port Hitch System, hitch-mounted bike rack (4), hitch-mounted cargo tray, Thule roof-mounted cargo box


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